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Town of Emerald
Isle
Minutes of Regular Planning Board Meeting
Monday, April 28,
2003
7:00 P.M. Town Hall
The Meeting was called to order by Vice-chairman, Anne
Erikson. Members present: Ed
Dowling, Anne Erikson, Pat Patteson, Pam Minnick and Jim Craig.
Chairman Daniel and Frank Erwin were out of town.
Also attending was Secretary/Planning Director, Carol Angus; Michael
Harvey, Planning Consultant from Benchmark, LLC.
Report from Planning Director – Carol Angus
a)
Town Board Meeting, April 8, 2003 – Ms. Angus advised the
members that the Commissioners had unanimously adopted the recommendation to
remove automobile lots from the B-3 Permitted Use Table.
And, the rezoning request for the 4.03 acres from B-3 to RMF
by Randy Campbell was denied by a vote of 3-2.
b)
Land Use Plan Update Steering Committee Meeting, April 9, 2003 –
The information from the April meeting is attached to these minutes. Ms. Angus
advised that the Update is progressing on schedule.
Mr. Farris is sending a survey to the members for their opinions on a
number of issues.
The survey concerns future land
use preferences by the property owners and will be mailed to the property
owners. Ms. Minnick asked whether there might be recommendations from this
committee regarding rezonings. Ms. Erikson advised that she felt there may be
suggestions, but not to have a recommendations.
c)
The May planning board meeting date was rescheduled to Thursday, May 22,
at 7:30 P.M. to accommodate the Holiday on the regular meeting date as
well as affording the applicant ample time to get any information back from the
technical review in a timely manner to the board.
(Time change due to use of the board room).
Citizens Comments: Vice-chairman Erikson informed the members that Mr. Ricky
Farrington has approached her to ask for more time than is generally allotted
for a the Dunes and vegetation revision. It
was unanimously agreed that Mr. Farrington may have the additional time, up to
15 minutes at that point on the agenda.
Preliminary/Final, Phase IV, Spinnakers Reach
Subdivision, Block 47, Lots 82 through 114 (exception of lot 112
previously approved), RMH zoning – John Odom, Prestige Land Surveying; Randy
Campbell – Mr. Odom represented
the project and advised that this is the final phase for the entire subdivision.
Ms. Minnick asked about the isolated 404 wetlands assuming
that they must be left alone. Mr. Odom said they are not classified as isolated
wetlands, or have not been as yet. She
made reference to a note on the plat regarding wetlands. Mr. Odom said that they
have been designated isolated; however, they have not been so designated under
the Wilson case, so they are still considered as not isolated.
Further wetland filling is not permitted according to the Corps of
Engineers previous permit. Also, there is a restrictive covenant that is enforced in
conjunction with the town that no further wetland filling is permitted.
Mr. Odom relayed to the members that this subdivision was
given preliminary approval in 1996 when all the roads were built and then
segments of the subdivision were recorded and sold. The reason for the phasing was caused by the long wait by
Carteret County Environmental Health department to issue septic permits.
As the health department finished with a series of lots, they asked for
final approval of that phase. There
are now 29 lots available for recording in this final phase.
The roads are in and it is just a matter of recording the plat.
Mr. Dowling had some concerns about runoff at specific
sites and Mr. Odom advised that as the lots are developed each property owner
will have to submit a stormwater plan for their proposal. In some places they
will have to install retaining. Mr.
Dowling read three statements from the Land
Use Plan, 1) The filling of ponds
to get required separation from surface water is not encouraged; 2) To encourage
the protection of the natural system and use in ways that do not impair the
beneficial function; 3) Protect the interdunal troughs groundwater recharging
areas. He would like recommend that a note to be recorded on the map that the
drainage areas issues be illustrated. Mr.
Odom said he could not say that such a note would be placed on the final plat;
however, he felt that this subdivision has done more than any subdivision in the
past as far as protecting wetlands. To
him it seems quite redundant with the covenants having been done and enforcement
by the town of that covenant as well as Corps input.
Mr. Dowling asked that the town manager come up with some wording to this
effect. Mr. Rush asked Mr. Dowling
to clarify what he wanted on the plat. Mr.
Odom interjected at this point to ask Mr. Dowling if he had read the restrictive
covenants for Spinnakers Reach to which Mr. Dowling said he had not.
Mr. Odom said he would like to get a set of covenants to Mr. Dowling and
he would be satisfied that all the issues he has may be addressed there.
Mr. Rush agreed and stated that the stormwater ordinance requires that
each developer retain 2” of stormwater on their own site, so that should cover
it. Also, the ordinance requires if there is any filling of more than 1,000
square feet of wetlands, the wetland area must be replaced on the same site. The covenants are stronger in this subdivision.
Michael Harvey, Benchmark, referred to his memo submitted
to the members. He reiterated that
there will be no 404 wetlands unless an appropriate Corps permit is issued.
And, any development must adhere to the stormwater ordinance.
Mr. Harvey went on to advise that there are similar conditions in phases
1, 2, and 3 that are not unique to phase 4.
He feels the covenants are restrictive enough and the proposals do meet
the conditions of the land use plan and recommends approval of the plan.
Mr. Dowling he will then drop this issue if Mr. Harvey will
brief the commissioners on this issue at the meeting in May.
Mr. Harvey said he will answer any
question that the board presents.
Mr. Craig said he is satisfied with the discussion with
what Michael Harvey and Frank Rush have said, that the covenants are sufficient.
Motion to recommend approval the preliminary and final
plat for Spinnakers Reach S/D, Phase IV, was made by Pat Patteson, Pam
Minnick made the second with unanimous approval.
Preliminary/Final, South Beach
Subdivision, Block 14, 7 Lots, John Odom, Prestige Land
Surveying; Ricky and Billy Farrington – This project had originally be
submitted as The Farrington Brothers S/D, recently changed to “South Beach”.
Mr. Ricky Farrington advised that this property is immediately west of
Pier Point West at the ‘old dog leg’ of Ocean Drive.
There are letters from each of the utilities that service can be supplied
to the subdivision, as well as a letter from Bogue Banks Water that a new
hydrant at lot 6 will be installed by the end of May to service this property.
The cost of this hydrant will be borne by the developer. Septic tank
applications have been approved for each of the seven lots for 5-bedroom homes.
There are 3 oceanfront, 2 second row, 1 third row and 1 fourth row lot.
The septic permits are each issued for single family dwellings.
This is an environmentally sensitive area and they want to minimize the
impervious surfaces and natural areas. The
storm drainage in the past has been able to dissipate very quickly.
Also, there is a viable hydrant at the Pier Point complex.
Chairman Erikson asked for
an explanation of the dotted lines that are shown off Ocean Drive into several
of the lots. Mr. Farrington
responded that that is for a potential shared driveway. It would be access for
an easement to reduce the impervious area and eliminate drives onto Hwy 58.
On lot 3 there would be a long driveway to go from Hwy 58.
To be able to use this easement, like an alley to give access to all
three oceanfronts and the second row. This
is a classic example of shared drives as opposed to a driveway for each lot. The ordinance requires that any lot with street frontage must
have a minimum of 30’ in width. Lots
3 and 5 could, by ordinance, may put in their own driveway; however, it will be
the owners choice as to access but to encourage the shared drive.
Mr. Farrington advised that all the land is in a VE flood
zone which does not permit any fill and Coastal Area Management Agency (CAMA)
regulations must be adhered to.
Mr. Harvey added that there are no inconsistencies with the
zoning ordinance or Land Use Plan as this area encourages single family
development. Therefore, an
affirmative recommendation comes from the staff for this project.
Motion was made by Jim
Craig second by Pat Patteson to recommend approval for the South Beach 7-lot
S/D, Block 14, with unanimous approval in favor of the motion.
Large structure Committee Report – Pam
Minnick, committee chairman, advised that after direction from Chairman Daniel
at last month’s meeting Mr. Harvey was to contact the Raleigh office of DOT.
He was told to contact the New Bern district office as Mr. Harvey had said he
would have to do at the March meeting. Therefore,
there is no proposal before the members tonight because the DOT Raleigh office
will not get involved in a project that should be handled through the New Bern
office.
Ms. Minnick said she felt this proposal should be forwarded
in it’s present form with the contingency that there will be an amendment as
to the “c” level traffic service forthcoming.
She is concerned that postponing the ordinance again is that a project
submitted prior to it’s adoption and would not be required to comply with the
requirements that have been recommended.
Mr. Harvey reiterated that Ms. Minnick is correct that
there is no information available from DOT as he was instructed to work through
the Raleigh, not the New Bern office. He
advised Ms. Minnick earlier that it may be prudent to proceed with the ordinance
and continue to address the traffic level issue. Then if there were a project to
be submitted they would have to follow the guidelines that have been recommended
from the committee.
Vice-chairman Erikson asked if the present ordinances did
not cover the “Wings” type of building? Mr. Harvey replied that if it is
over 10,000 sq. ft. the present ordinances do not establish additional
development criteria to address the concerns as addressed by the committee.
Vice-chairman Erikson advised she does not feel comfortable
to continue without having what Mr. Daniel wanted to see.
Mr. Harvey said he recommended approval, knowing that the
board will be back to address the traffic level issue.
It would put the ordinance in place for a potential large structure now.
Ms. Erikson advised that she did not want to recommend
something that was not in there packet. Mr. Harvey said he did not have it
included because he did not have the information that Mr. Daniel wanted from
Raleigh, so, being incomplete, it was not included. Mr. Harvey then went over the highlights of the recommended
ordinance which included: buffering; setbacks; stormwater storage; mandatory
setbacks from secondary buildings on site; walkways or boardwalks from one
business to another separated from vehicular traffic; an internal vehicular traffic circulation plan will have to
be approved; a traffic study will be required; installation of sidewalks;
to make the project a pedestrian-friendly site.
He went on to advise that the issue can be tabled until the next meeting
or to call a special meeting.
Jim Craig said he is not comfortable with recommending
something that he is not familiar with being the new member; he would prefer a
special meeting.
Pat Patteson made the motion to table the large
structure ordinance. There are two issues, 1) satisfying Mr. Daniel who has
had a lot of input on the issue; 2) Frank Erwin is not here and he had a lot of
input on this. He hates to see it
sit, but he would like to see it be tabled to the May meeting for their input.
Mr. Dowling seconded the motion with unanimous approval in favor of the motion.
Mr. Harvey wanted to reiterate that this information would have been
completed and in the packets if he had been able to gather the information that
Mr. Daniel had wanted.
Mr. Dowling asked if a developer were to demolish an
existing structure, can he rebuild on the old footprint?
Ms. Minnick replied that, if the new ordinance were in place, they would
have to follow the new guidelines.
Dunes and Vegetation Ordinance Revision Update
– Vice-Chairman Erikson
then asked that Mr. Harvey address this revision. He reminded the members that the most recent version of the
ordinance is before them. He had
also outlined in his memo how the board had reached this point from the joint
workshop meeting. It reflects the
results of that workshop where the board asked the commissioners for their
feelings and feedback. He has
outlined those issues. The
commissioners were asked if they were comfortable with the changes in the
proposed format. The following direction was taken by staff that the format was
acceptable:
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The intent
and applicability sections.
- They
ere comfortable with the mandatory 35% natural area that would be on the
front, sides
and rear property lines,
referred to as the fringe areas.
- There
was discussion as to removal of the ‘nuisance’ type of vegetation from
the natural area.
- The
septic area will now be excluded in the natural area;
- Two
methods for the 35%
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If the mandatory
vegetation on the fringe met the 35% then the ordinance was
satisfied., if it did not meet the
35%…..
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It would be necessary to designate vegetation elsewhere on the lot
to meet 35%.
- He
has tried to provide greater explanation of the process and how a permit is
obtained.
- The
proposal provides different procedures for vacant lots, developed lots,
- Procedure
for property owners that want to remove vegetation more than 3” in
caliper.
- The
cutting of vegetation over 3” will require a permit. The current ordinance
specifies 4” in caliper.
- To
protect CAMA Estuarine and Ocean Hazard Areas, specifically, only pruning of
these areas will be permitted except for construction of walkways or other
types uses.
- Does
allow pruning of vegetation in natural area, and removal of nuisance
vegetation.
- Topographic
surveys will continue to be required to aid and identify stormwater problems
- The
penalty for violations are now to be a $500 fine for each individual
offense, i.e. each tree involved will constitute an offense.
- A
specific replacement height has been recommended if a tree is removed
illegally.
- Any
request to waive or vary any
requirement will be referred to the Board of Adjustment.
- New
definitions have been added, some from CAMA text.
- The
fringe area is designated as 10’ on front and rear with 5’ side property
lines.
- To
protect trees that are of significant of size and height that are soil
stabilizers.
- The
exemptions are the same as what had been previously reviewed.
- Designs
standards are more specific and rationale for the standard
- Encourage
the use of shared driveways
- Follow
the natural contour of a property wherever possible.
- Reiterates
the driveway specifications
- Focus
on what can and cannot be done in a natural area; i.e. removal of dead
tress; trees that may be a threat to public safety or to a building or
inhibits growth of surrounding trees and vegetation.
The Dunes & Vegetation Officer must grant permission for such
removal.
Mr. Rush, town manager, reminded the members of the map
that was available that breaks out the individual lots that remain undeveloped
and color coded to provide the square footage category that each of those lots
falls in.
Ricky Farrington then presented a 15 minute Power
Point presentation that illustrated the points that he disagreed with the
submitted revision. His points
dealt with topography primarily, stormwater issues, the use of the setbacks as
natural area (fringe) on lots that have no natural vegetation in that area will
preclude the stripping of vegetation from within the site.
Mr. Farrington had a number of site specific instances with photographs
of sites at Emerald Isle. He compared some of the projects he has done and how this
revision would have adversely affected these sites. He feels that the owner and the developer ought to have the
flexibility of determining the 35% to remain natural on the lot and not have 35%
dictated. He thinks the homeowner
and building can work for the better good of the lot. Mr. Farrington is also opposed to having the marsh area on
soundfront lots and the ocean erodible area being excluded from the 35%, because
in some instances a property would not be able to be developed with this
requirement, he would construe that as a “taking”.
The members thanked Mr. Farrington for his in depth
presentation and would take his concerns into consideration.
Hugh Geiger, general contractor, commented that if
he were to have to adhere to the proposal before the board he would not be able
to build a house in Pointe Bogue as it exists today. Implementing a side loading garage, as this homeowner
preferred, would be impossible if the side fringe must be done. This proposal seems to “make poverty righteous” and force
owners to smaller houses. For those property owners that have boats they would
not be able to keep them in their back yard because they cannot go through the
natural area. Most property owners feel that it is their land and they don’t
like having so many regulations. Mr. Geiger commented that this is a better
version than what had been previously submitted. He asked that the members
reconsider and allow the 35% to be determined by the owner and contractor. To
say that “one thing fits all” is not the case on many of the lots to be
developed. He agreed with removing
the septic area out of the calculation of natural or undisturbed area.
The members thanked Mr. Geiger for his comments.
Doje Marks, spoke as a property owner, to clarify
that the reason for the ordinance changes was to protect the vegetation.
It has been a long ongoing topic that many residents and owners are
concerned about. It is important to the water table, stormwater, winds, and salt
intrusion. She said she totally
disagreed with Mr. Farrington that any constitutional rights would be violated.
(Ms. Marks turned from the microphone and some comments were inaudible.)
She and Mr. Farrington had some conversation regarding the Point Bogue
S/D specifics on Corree Cove Road. Ms.
Marks also felt that should an owner want to build a large home they should buy
a large lot. Mr. Farrington took
exception to this comment and advised that is what most of his development has
been, being large lots with large homes.
Jim Davis, general contractor, then addressed the
board. He told the board that he has been building here is 1981 and homes are
much less than the size of the ones Mr. Farrington is building. He appreciates
all the time that has been spent on the revision of this ordinance as he was
Planning Board member from 1982 to 1998. He
does not feel he is a developer, he is an agent for the home owner.
Mr. Davis felt the current ordinance had served the town very well for a
number of years. To remove the septic area from the natural or undisturbed area
does make more sense because it takes away the public’s perception that there
was more disturbance than what had been permitted. He felt that several hundred
of the undeveloped lots will be difficult to deal with because of the problems
that someone else caused this problem. The
choice lots are almost gone, and the remainder of the lots are owned by
individuals, not by large tracts development. He wants to keep Emerald Isle
green but he sees the beard (fringe) as a problem.
It would require the use of retaining walls in some cases, where the
owner may have an entirely different option without being dictated that the
fringe must be left natural. Mr.
Davis recommended that the board reconsider the designation and let the 35% be a
floating 35% and not a fringe area.
Vice Chairman Erikson thanked Mr. Davis for his comments.
Billy Farrington then addressed the board. Mr.
Farrington apologized to the board for an incident that had occurred in a
previous meeting. He has worked
doing drywall since 1976 and began building on his own since 1985. He has drawn
over 125 permits for construction with septic tanks. A septic tank must be
installed, a house, driveway and now a stormwater system must be placed on the
lot. There are several hundred lots that are less than 12,500 square feet that
will be affected by all these necessary inclusions. If there is a smaller lot
that has vegetation in places other than the fringe area they will have to cut
that vegetation to comply and the contractors don’t want to do that. They want
to preserve the vegetation even though others have accused them of wanting to
cut trees for sport.
If the town wants to encourage shared driveways to reduce
impervious area, how can that be
done with the 5’ fringe on each property?
The septic tank rules have 5’ setback requirements, from an area that
has been leveled. If the area has to be level, if you leave it on a slope they
will say 5’ plus an additional 7’. The
reason being that if you put a system in the ground 2’ and it’s next to a
slope you can experience a blowout of the line.
This would create some potential problems on smaller lots.
His perception of the fringe is that there is a taking when someone
cannot use the setback area for their driveway and/or septic tank installation.
He agreed on the issue of a side loading garage, the natural fringe would make
entry very difficult on a ranch style house.
Mr. Farrington agreed that taking the septic area out of the undisturbed
is a great idea, but to please allow the 35% to be a floating determination to
be made by the owner and builder.
Vice Chairman Erikson thanked Mr. Farrington for his
comments.
John Odom asked to make comment and approached the
board. Mr. Odom is a land surveyor
that has worked with properties in Emerald Isle for a number of years.
He would like to have the exemptions portions mention that land surveyors
do not require a permit, that they will only be cutting the lot to be
able to gain foot access for a survey. The
board agreed that this would be considered.
He went on to remind the members that small lots that were developed
prior to 1977, by county health department regulations, can be placed from five
feet of any property line, which would be a problem for the 10’ fringe
requirement on the front and rear lot lines.
Clint Routson, a resident in Dolphin Ridge, agreed
with the comments he had heard and that the fringe will be creating some
problems especially with shared driveways.
He would also like to see an ordinance that would allow the DVPO to
modify the fringe requirement in certain situations. The board of adjustment could not issue a variance if a
unique circumstance does not exist to the land. It comes down to being a dollar
issue, as to whether one is willing to build retaining walls because they have
5’ fringe requirements. It would be beneficial to the town to have the DVPO be
able to make those kind of decision and allow modifications rather than have to
go to board of adjustment and not really have the standards be met so that a
variance can be granted. He also
wants the ordinance written in terms that intended interpretation is obvious to
anyone who reads the ordinance.
Vice chairman Erikson thanked Mr. Routson for his brief
comments.
Billy Farrington asked again be heard on an
important topic that he thinks need to be addressed.
On commercial properties that are condominimized that are on zero lot
lines. He is concerned about what
would happen if the building were to be destroyed with the proposed ordinance.
If someone who owns a unit on the setback portion would not be able to
have their unit. Would these
buildings be grandfathered? There
was no immediate answer to that question and must be considered.
Ronnie Watson reiterated that the 45% rule had been
working. If this were a perfect
world and perfect topography the fringe would work, but that will not work here.
The 35% can work but the fringe is not going to work, the 35% needs to be
floating. It will be a problem with
residential and commercial property. If
you never had to figure out how all the improvements to a property are to be
applied you don’t understand the problems that can appear. Mr. Patteson is the
only one on the board that deals with this on a day by day basis.
The 35% needs to be on a floating designation.
Ed Dowling made the points regarding the applicant going to
the board of adjustment. He
disagrees with the term “taking” being used for the fringe requirement and
read the state regulations as it reads from the definitions for a taking.
After practical use and reasonable value have been established it cannot
be classified as a taking. These
regulation are constitutional. Mr.
Dowling said he was not in favor of shared driveways with single family
dwellings, but only for commercial uses. He
was in favor of the 35% floating on lots less than 7,000 square feet, separating
them from the larger lots. He went on to personally thank each of the parties
that had just addressed the board.
Jim Craig said he did not know the history of the 45% over
the 35% regulation since he is new to the board. He has faith in people and does not think that “one size
fits all”. He does not like
to see the ‘cookie cutter’ effect is best.
He does not feel the fringe concept is appropriate.
The intent is to preserve vegetation and people want individuality with
their property.
Pam Minnick said she has not like the fringe concept since
it was presented and she still does not like it. The 35% floating is fair to her and she is happy with that.
If the fringe were to be implemented she is glad she has already built
her house and did not have to comply with that requirement. She is thinking in
terms of going out to build another home and how she would want to go about
designing her own property.
Pat Patteson said he wants to see more green and the 35%
will bring more green. He sees it as an increase because when you look at the
septic system, as a genera rule, it gets vegetated and will then add to the 35%
that needed to be determined. He
referred to the map that had been distributed and indicated that the lots that
remain undeveloped are scattered throughout the island and are not in an area
that large amounts of vegetation is left. The ‘junk’ lots are difficult to
deal with and trying to develop them with even more requirements makes it so
much harder. He doesn’t want to
punish an owner that wants to improve a lot that, over the years, has become the
stormwater reception for the entire area. He
does not like the fringe idea, but does want the 35% at the owners discretion
and in the end we will get more green. Mr. Patteson said that he also would like to see something
added that if it is not necessary to destroy something, dunes or whatever, that
it not be destroyed. Also, Ms.
Angus had talked to him about it that we do not want to create a situation that
will require the board of adjustment making decisions that should not be coming
before them.
Vice-chairman Erikson said she would prefer not to vote on
this issue because Frank Erwin is not in attendance, and he had a lot of input
into this ordinance. She preferred
to table it to May.
Mike Harvey said he advised that he thought it is best to
table the revision because there are two members that have been staunch
advocates for different concepts that are absent this evening.
It needs to be remembered that the Joint Workshop session in March staff
took two concepts to the workshop. One
the 35% floating concept, the other the fringe. Floating 35% is one he
personally recommended to Mr. Rush in a second draft of the ordinance and what
he had written the board in the past year and a half.
Mr. Harvey said he agrees with Mr. Rush. The fringe was developed as a
compromise to address other concerns. Both
concepts went to the workshop and asked for guidance. They gave directions, and
if that is not acceptable, let staff go back and rework the draft until this
board is comfortable. Remember, the town board had given staff an opinion of
what they want to see. What opinion the staff has is immaterial. Their opinion
is the what he and staff work under; however if you want more information on the
floating concept versus the fringe so that you are more comfortable in making
additional recommendations.
Ms. Erikson said she likes the two comparisons that Ms.
Angus submitted to illustrate the lot the way it is being developed today and
how it would be developed if the revision were applied. She knows there are
always going to be exceptions. She
then thanked all those who participated in the discussion.
Mr. Dowling said he wants two phases of the directive, one
with the 35% floating for the lots less than 7,000 sq. ft. and the fringe for
those larger than 7,000 sq. ft.
Ms. Minnick said Mr. Dowling is asking for a third version,
one for less than 7,000 sq. ft. with floating
vegetation; second for fringe for lots over 7,000; and third for the
floating for all lots with no square footage distinction.
Ms. Erikson then asked that this topic be tabled to the May
meeting. Mr. Rush said he wanted to
be sure that it was being tabled for Mr. Erwin and Mr. Daniel’s input, as
well as going with the 35% floating vegetation requirement. Mr. Dowling
made the motion to table, second by Pat Patteson with unanimous approval.
Meeting was adjourned at 9:15 PM
Respectfully submitted
Carol Angus, Secretary
Town of Emerald Isle
Planning
Board Planning Director
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