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MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL
MEETING
Public Comments
Mayor
Schools said citizens could make comments now or before any agenda item. Mr.
George McLaughlin asked about pay increases for the fire department.
He used to be a reserve fireman, and if his health hadn’t taken a bad
turn, he probably would still be doing that.
Last year they got shortchanged on their salary treatment.
Some departments got bigger increases, and they are at a much greater
risk when called to do whatever they are supposed to do when a fire alarm comes
in. They have to be made whole.
They can’t have, as he sees it, have a net loss in pay.
He substitute teaches in Onslow County, and he mentioned something about
pay to the secretary, and she said she had gotten a raise, and when the
insurance went up, she came up with less money than she had the year before.
He knows the budget times are tough and the governor will probably
withhold some money that he probably shouldn’t and we have to make up for it
with taxes somewhere, but having been in government service for a long time, the
underlings have no say. They are
stuck with whatever the government they work for gives them.
They have to live with it whether they like it or not.
He would think that in all fairness to the firemen that at the minimum
they need to get the rate of inflation plus 2 to 3 percent, at least.
He thinks department heads salary-wise should be treated differently, but
when it comes to the underlings, everybody should be treated the same. Experience level should count.
If somebody with a lower experience level or somebody in one department
who is new and is getting paid more than somebody with 10 to 12 years
experience, that doesn’t fly. Experience
should count for something, and when it comes to salary treatment, it should. Mr.
Tim Kana said as he understands it, the purpose of the meeting is to discuss the
upcoming phase 2 of the project and the critical decisions that have to be made,
and to review what they have learned from phase 1, which is wrapping up right
now. Dr. Kana indicated Tom White
would give an overview of phase 1, what was accomplished and discuss briefly the
construction alternatives that exist. Dr.
Kana said we are talking about a Million dollars worth of work that has to be
accomplished in a pretty narrow window, so it’s going to take a lot of
co-ordination and planning just as they did in phase 1 and hopefully at the end
of the day they would be able to take the lessons from phase 1 and apply them to
phase 2 and do a more efficient job, get more sand, do it with less
environmental impact to the turtles. These
are the critical issues. The
commissioners’ charge to them is to develop the final plan for phase 2.
They need to get moving on that ASAP. Dr.
Kana turned it over to Mr. Tom White. Mr.
White said there are a few key statistics to let them know what happened and
what is possible during the winter timetable. We plan from the start that
they’ll have a total of 5 months plus some time for localization and tilling
of the sand on the beach outside of the actual dredging window.
The project volume is 1.7 million cubic yards, and it turns out that is
similar to the volume that Emerald Isle is planning. Mr.
White said they would expect in the future that they would know more about the
tire situations. They would plan on
what to do about it and would expect not to have the tire delays they had with
Pine Knoll Shores and Indian Beach. There are three general areas of lessons
learned in how to manage the project specific to this island:
tires, turtles, and bidding documents (how to organize the bidding
process). There are several issues
in the bid process that if they are done differently and tighten up what
different bidders expect, we would expect to get better prices. Commissioner
Farmer asked about how many lineal feet would be done in the eastern part of
Emerald Isle and how does that compare? Mr. White answered 23,000 lineal feet.
This equals 1,738,945 cubic yards which is almost identical to what was
accomplished in Pine Knoll Shores and Indian Beach. Mr.
White said the progress tended to be pretty much governed by the volume.
The length of the beach has more effect on how much pipe volume you can
get and which dredges are used. Mr.
Bill Foreman went over the different dredges and their significances.
The first one was the Cutterhead Dredge.
This is a barge like dredge that the head moves back and forth, cuts left
to right into a bank of sediment and moves off and cuts left to right.
It takes a big wide swat over the bottom as opposed to a Hopper Dredge,
which is like a big vacuum. It sucks the sediment off the bottom as it drags
along. This dredge cuts very
shallow where with the Cutterhead Dredge you would cut a swat 200 to 300 feet
wide. The
Cutterhead Dredge tolerates 5 to 6 foot waves, but when the waves get bigger
than that, it has to shut down, disconnect from the pipeline and tows it to the
port. Dr.
Kana said, the quality source, what goes on the beach, with the Hopper Dredge,
is much better because the dredge process actually eliminates and filters out
fines. In the water area you may
have 5% fines but what goes on the beach is 1% and is much better.
With the Cutterhead Dredge, everything in the borrow area comes to the
beach. The dredge sorting is very
similar to that of nature. Clay that has been run into in borrow areas A & B is of a
very soupy consistency and will break up and filter out.
This is good news because it means it will wash with the surf.
What you do not absolutely want to get into is a deposit that is thick.
A few were found off-shore and can be avoided.
For this particular project, almost no clay rollers were seen.
Commissioner
Eckhardt followed up on between the two types of dredging – he stated Dr. Kana
said is there is an ability to control quality, having a two-stage operation?
Dr. Kana said not exactly and the reason for that one advantage of the
Cutterhead it takes a whole section and the Cutterhead just takes the sediments.
If you have good borings and the Cutterhead takes that section out, basically
what you saw in the borings is what will be on the beach. With
the Hopper Dredge, it takes thin layers through this patch, it takes 6 inches
out and then runs into a shell bank, you will be getting a shelly section.
The more control is to have more variation from hopper and hopper.
There
is no such thing as saying all we want is .2mm sand. You don’t want all sand grains the same size because it
will create a profile that is more freshwater uniform than what the natural
profile is. Mr.
White, in answer to a question by Commissioner Marks regarding the depth of the
cuts, said on the Hopper Dredge you can only go three to four feet deep.
On the Cutter, you usually cut 6 foot deep.
He can dig as deep as he wants if the pumping distance is reasonable. Commissioner
Farmer said basically we are talking about is the difference between 3 to 4 feet
and 6 feet. Then there is a 100 to
200 foot wide swat Vs. a swat from the Hopper Dredge. Commissioner
McElraft asked how does it affect the turtle taking with the Cutterhead Dredge?
It has been mentioned it is a lot safer for the turtles.
The Hoppers basically suck turtles in and the Cutterheads make a lot of
noise and make a lot of activity on the bottom that keeps the turtles away.
Mr.
Rush asked about a project in New Jersey and asked if they were using Hopper or
Cutterhead Dredges. Dr. Kana
answered that he thinks both were used but mostly Hoppers. Commissioner
Farmer said her understanding is the New Jersey project was valid up to about
Norfolk and their habitat is so totally different. Mr. Rush said he was only asking to try to get a better idea
of how quickly things recolonize whether it is a Hopper Dredge or Pipeline
Dredge. Dr.
Kana indicated the South Carolina studies revealed quicker recovery with Hopper
Dredges. With the Cutterhead
Dredges, it is hardly variable, because as it turns out some of the projects
were tidal shoals which recreated very rapidly, the hole was filled very
rapidly. The borrow areas were
filled pretty quickly so the rate of recovery was moderately rapid.
Typically
it was 1 to 2 years before full recovery in the South Carolina studies that were
reviewed. In Myrtle Beach it was around 1 year before recovery with the Hopper
Dredge. Mayor
Schools asked what the main advantages would be to going with a pipeline dredge
as opposed to a Cutterhead? Dr.
Kana said the main advantage would be turtles. The chance of taking turtles with
Cutterheads reduces down to near zero. Commissioner
Messer asked if the permits the town has now are for shallow cuts and if the
town decides to go with the Cutterheads, permits will have to be modified.
Dr. Kana answered, “Yes”. Commissioner
Messer asked if any problems are foreseen for modification of the permits for
Cutterheads? Mr. White said from
experience of the problems already had, he could not answer that. Mayor
Schools asked about the cost of doing one Vs. the other.
Mr. White said the Hopper Dredge would do 5 to 6 loads a day, 2,500 cubic
yards for a total of 15,000 cubic yards a day and 20,000 on a very good day. That is one Hopper Dredge.
A Cutterhead Dredge would probably double or triple that because he could
do more in a day and do it quicker. You
have to look at the weather. You
have less of a weather tolerance with the Cutterhead, especially if you have
heavy weather where he has to pick it all up and head to port.
The Hopper dredge can stay out. It
has been on the edge of balancing the economic equation of the Cutterhead Vs.
Hopper and all decided it was too shallow for the Cutterhead to be economical
since the dredge depth was limited in Pine Knoll Shores.
Commissioner
Marks asked if there was any specific spot where those tires are?
Mr. White said some research has been done on that and the archeologist
who did the cultural resource work for the first phase, has gone out to some of
the people who makes the equipment, and he believes they have a system they can
use. This piece of equipment is
sort of like a metal detector but it looks for non-metallic mines.
It would be a two-step process. First
they would have to get the equipment, and develop a signature of what the tires
would like to make it work. Mr.
Rush said he had a very encouraging conversation regarding the permitting the
other day with the Corps. Mr. Kana
said the Corps is one of the more reasonable agencies.
The problem is they are stuck with what some of the other agencies are
telling them. Basically, the Fish
and Wildlife could say “Sorry Corps. You are out of business on the
southeastern section and the Corps is shut down”. Dr. Kana said his point is
that once some limit like that is reached, the Corps really has no option. The
board agreed that Dr. Kana should go back and apply for the permit modification
for deeper cuts.
In reference to the turtles and the warm water, Dr. Kana said the
dredging has to be done between December 1st and April 1st. This is the window
available right now. He also said
they cannot mobilize on the beach but they can put the equipment in the water.
You could use whatever equipment to do the last phase.
It may very well be, if this were done with no permit modification, they
would still come in with Cutterheads.
Mr. Rush said he guesses the plan is to begin mobilization on the beach
November 16 and start as soon as possible.
Commissioner Farmer said it takes about two weeks to go through
mobilization before they can start pumping.
You are not that far away from December 1st when they start
pumping. She is really
uncomfortable having any delays. Dr.
Kana, said you would want to be good neighbors and the earlier you start the
earlier you finish. Mr.
Rush said the important thing is to get in and out as soon as possible to avoid
turtle taking as much as possible. Tapering
of the project was discussed and it was noted that there would be a need to put
about 2600 feet of nourishment on Indian Beach and taper down on Emerald Isle.
The sand would be brought ashore in Emerald Isle and would work towards the east
until it met what was done in Indian Beach.
Mayor
Schools remarked we shouldn’t finish Indian Beach until we finish Emerald
Isle. His question is would you have to start in Indian Beach to get that slope?
Mr. White said within that reach, Indian Beach is about 2600 feet short
and you would have to tie into their taper to get the right slope. Dr.
Kana said you cannot just abruptly stop it. If you did, the question would be
where do you taper it. The tapering can be done by starting on Emerald Isle but
that would mean the eastern end would not get much sand. Dr.
Kana recommended starting with 1600 feet in Indian Beach and finish it up and
work your way westward and if there were was time left over you could go back
and finish the 2600 feet at Indian Beach. Dr.
Kana said they are required to do the environmental biological monitoring as
part of the post monitoring follow-ups and they work with National Marine
Fisheries and Fish and Wildlife. They
are committed to do 5 samplings on Pine Knoll Shores and Indian Beach.
The samplings will take place in June and November of each year.
The June sampling just came out about a month ago.
That included sampling of organisms in the borrow area and over 100,000
organisms were collected, sorted and counted.
The November sampling report has not arrived yet.
This coming June will be the first post sampling in Pine Knoll Shores.
There will be a sampling in November, which will be paid for by Indian
Beach and then another one in June 2003 and paid for by Pine Knoll Shores. Dr.
Kana commented that when negotiating with the agencies, it was said in the event
Emerald Isle decided to do a project, they recommended that Emerald Isle absorb
the cost of environmental monitoring that goes on after that. Gregory
Rudolph asked in terms of environmental monitoring, if we changed to a
Cutterhead dredge and we do phase III, how would that affect everything.
Commissioner Farmer said it is also an issue of improvement and the
bigger the nourishment program the bigger the issue of regeneration.
The answer to this was inaudible. Mr.
Rush said he would try to sit down with some people and review what would be
done in the biological monitoring program.
His only concern is that he wants to do as much as we can if it is in our
budget that we have outlined that includes $250,000 for environmental
monitoring. Mr.
Rush said the County is paying for Atlantic Beach surveys and he would like for
them to keep doing this. Bulldozing
of the beach was discussed briefly. It
was suggested that the Town pass a Resolution or ordinance prohibiting this
action, especially after nourishment. After
a short lunch the meeting resumed at 1:30 P.M. Mayor
Schools noted that one of the Police Officesr, Ronald Schirmer, bought a raffle
ticket from the library and won the prize, which was a painting.
He then donated the painting back to the Library. Mr.
Rush spoke of the situation at the Pointe and it is in very bad shape in the
area where the cul-de-sac used to be. Mr.
Rush has received a quote of $25,000 to place more sandbags.
Mr.
Taylor explained that additional sandbags need to be placed in the area
mentioned above. The people whose
properties are involved do qualify for sandbags. The sand bags the town has
placed is now out of conformance because the water has washed behind the bags
and they have slipped off each other. Those
will have to be removed. It will
take about 100 bags for the repair. The
price tag for this process is around $25,000 and the contractor is asking for
half of that amount up front before he starts.
The sand will be obtained from the channel.
CAMA writes all the permits for this action. The
board agreed unanimously for Mr. Rush to proceed with taking the current bags
out and replace any bags that need to be. Mr.
Rush said the money to pay for this would have to come from the beach
nourishment fund and there is approximately $270,000 in that account at present.
The town really doesn’t have a choice!
Fiscal
Year 2002-2003 Budget Update – Mr. Rush gave a summary of the Fiscal Year
2002-2003 Budget and where it stands at this time.
Additional work is to be done on it and additional cuts will be made.
A final draft will be available for the board on May 14th. Mr.
Rush said his projection on this summary is a tax rate of $0.18, which is ˝
cent, increase but there still be a deficit of $179,000 to balance. Commissioner Eckhardt asked if Emerald Isle might do what Pine
Knoll Shores is doing? They are
asking people to contribute towards helping the town with their budget.
He is not so sure they are not in worse shape than Emerald Isle.
It seems like a good idea. Mr. Rush said he would be interested in
suggestions from anyone. There will be workshops and the formal hearing on the
budget in June and comments could be taken at either.
For the Revenue side, the bottom line is there is $184,000
less in total revenues than was budgeted for the current fiscal year.
A variety of reasons contributing to that are State reimbursements.
The Intangible Tax will not be coming to the town as the Governor has
held those funds. Another is a significant decrease in Utility Franchise Tax,
which has been adjusted, and we have $115,625. If the Governor does not withheld
those funds this year, there would probably been around $200,000 for the current
year. Next year the town is
counting on a full years worth of Utility Franchise Tax Revenues to come from
the Governor next year. This is a
bit of a gamble because at this point in time no one really knows what the
Governor is going to do. This
Franchise Tax is the only one the town has a good chance of holding on to next
year. There will be a fight if this
tax is not received next year and it may not be.
A
more conservative approach was taken on reimbursements next year but in this
projection we have not counted on the less significant revenue sources at this
time. They were supposed to go away
next year anyway. Mr. Rush feels
that reimbursements are probably gone for good. The
Room Occupancy Tax amounted to $95,000
this year, but will receive $0 for next years General Fund. In next year’s
budget fund however, the town will receive $540,000 in the beach nourishment
project since the Room Occupancy has been earmarked for beach nourishment. Commissioner
Eckhardt asked Mr. Rush to detail the exposure directly related to the State’s
cut-backs. Mr. Rush answered that
in terms of next years budget it is roughly $100,000.
It would be about $300,000 if the Franchise Tax is not budgeted but the
total of Beer and Wine Tax and other reimbursable totals about $100,000.
For the larger cities in North Carolina, it is even larger than that.
Everyone has to stand together on the sales tax. Commissioner
Farmer asked if the Sales Tax includes the Sales Tax from the new tax system.
Mr. Rush said, “Yes”. The Sales Tax in the budget for this year was
$837,000. Next year we have
projected $825,000. Sales tax is way off this year, in fact it was way off last
year. On
the Revenues, $31,000 has been programmed into next years budget from
Lease/Purchase proceeds. In the
current year actually $215,000 was budgeted for purchase of vehicles.
Next year, there is not much budgeted for vehicles.
The $31,000 budgeted is actually some of the proceeds left over from the
current year that will be pumped back into the cost of a new police car next
year. $319,000
of the Fund Balance was appropriated to balance the 2001-2002 budget In February
2002, the budget was amended and the Fund Balance appropriation was cut to
$235,000. This is a high number and
Mr. Rush is not comfortable with it. $100,000
has been plugged in for next year. This
is felt to be a reasonable figure. Really
he would like to see $0. Mr.
Rush said that on the expenditure side, the expenditure increase/decrease
overall is 2.1% over the current year and some of that is actually anticipating
grant funding for walkways and the planning grant application applied for a
couple of weeks ago. $15,000 has
been included for some contracting planning engineering. Another big impact on
the expenditure side is EMS. We
have provided $100,000 for ˝ year this year and $177,650 has been factored in
for next year. That number is
$20,000 less than they had requested and the rationale for this is they were
requesting $197,000 and $10,000 of that was contingency.
There is probably about $10,000 outside revenues that will be coming to
EMS from other sources. Otherwise,
there is not much in additional expenditures. Salary
increases proposed are very moderate, around 2% but the CPI this past 12 months
was 1.5%. No lay-offs have been
factored in at this time and it is desired to avoid this.
One position, not filled, in Public Works has been eliminated. One Police
Car will be replaced next year. The
only department, at this point, that would have salary increases greater than
the 2% is the Fire Department. More
has been factored into their salaries because the Police Department got more
last year and we need to bring the Fire Department into line. Mr.
Rush said he was going to ask the departments to go back and reduce their
budgets another 2%. About $40,000
is additional health insurance premiums for next year and that is with decreases
in our coverage. The town has the
best coverage right now but is looking to falling back to the second best
coverage because of the price of premiums.
Other coverage, i.e. Blue Cross / Blue Shield is being looked at as
possible coverage for next year. Modest
increases have been factored in for employees, there are approximately 15
employees and one or two Commissioners who have dependants on the health
insurance coverage and those premiums are going up on family care somewhere
around an extra $100.00 per month for family care.
For those who have spouse coverage only or just children only is anywhere
from $50.00 to $100.00 per month extra. We
have a hand full of employees who are going to get a raise but their health
insurance premium is going to take away their whole raise and then some. They will actually bring home less money than they did this
current year. For those who are
line workers, it is not a positive thing. There
is no better solution at this time. The
tax rate suggested, at present, is $ .18 and some homework has to be done to
come up with another $180,000 budget cuts. An
increase in solid waste fees is being considered to go from $120.00 to $130.00
per year. Some other fee increases
have been recommended in Parks and Recreation.
Everyone will have a tax increase next year with the beach nourishment
increases. Commissioner
Farmer asked if the $ .03 and $.48 would be added to the base rate of $ .18?
Mr. Rush said the General Fund would be listed as $ .18 and beach
nourishment would be listed as $ .48, etc. down the line.
Commissioner
McElraft asked about the solid waste fee. She
asked if the $10 increase would erase the $67,000 deficit totally? Mr. Rush replied the amount she is looking at is the amount
of increase projected for next years budget compared to the current budget.
Two salaries from public works have been shifted into this line item and
it is really not that substantial. The rationale used for the $10 increase comes
from salaries for the personnel who perform duties related to solid waste. Commissioner
Eckhardt questioned $15,000 consulting services fees.
Mr. Rush said he has received a proposal from a consulting provider to
provide consulting services for the major projects and to attend the Planning
Board and Town Board meetings for a maximum of $1,000 per month.
Mr. Rush plugged in an additional $3,000 to have extra so that he could
use that if he had to call on someone for extra assistance. Breaking
everything out on the tax bills was discussed.
Ms. Overman, Finance Officer and Assistant Town Manager, replied you
could not put but so many items on a tax bill.
They are not that big and you could not wrap information around a card. She clarified that we had $ .145 and then added another $ .02
for Storm water, which brought the tax amount up to $ .165, and then another
penny was added for beach renourishment. You
don’t see the $ .02 broken out on the tax bill because it is part of the $
.165. Mr.
Rush said the Primary and Secondary Benefit Districts for beach nourishment
should be broken out since it is an established tax this year and is not part of
the General Fund. Mr.
Rush commended the Department Heads for bringing their requests in with minimal
increases and in some cases decreases. They
worked hard to do this and he thanked them. Commissioner
Eckhardt asked if any hiring freezes have been put in place?
Mr. Rush said since last November, we have only had one position that was
not filled. We have hired one
person in public works but that was to fill a position left vacant by that
person. Mr.
Rush said in this plan no layoffs have been contemplated.
He hopes we do not reach that point. Commissioner
McElraft asked about the contract with Waste Industries.
They have requested the CPI increase.
Mr. Rush replied they would receive a 1.5% increase if the term of the
contract is not extended. The
present contract term expires in 2005. They
have offered the town a .75% increase with a one-year extension to expire in the
year 2006. Commissioner McElraft
suggested leaving it as long as we can extend it because she has a feeling that
their fees would jump more than the CPI. She wants to keep it intact so that
they will not get more than the CPI increase.
With new regulations, she has been hearing they may want to increase. An
approximate amount of $5,000 would be saved by extending the contract and
suggest that it be extended for a year. Commissioner
McElraft asked about the phone system and was informed by Ms. Overman that
Sprint is suppose to get back with her before April 30th. Commissioner
Eckhardt asked, in reference to Sales Tax, how much of that is based on the
increase in Ad Valorum Tax. Mr.
Rush answered about $100,000. That will come in August 15, 2003 but it would be
credited to our 2002-2003 budget. Commissioner
Messer asked about how much was spent in Hurricanes Fran and Bertha.
Ms. Overman answered the amount was about $526,000 in a matter of about 4
months. Then you have to wait 6
months to get your money back. We
are still waiting on some of the reimbursements now. Commissioner
McElraft asked about where the money would be on the nourishment bonds?
Mr. Rush answered that those tax revenues would be in a separate fund for
nothing but those debt service payments and the interest earned on that money
would stay in that fund.
Mayor
Schools asked if the fund balance
should be $100,000 higher than it was last June 30th? Mr.
Rush answered not really because we will turn around and roll it over for next
year. It shows up on the Balance Sheet as being earmarked for next
years budget. Right now there is
about $1.4 million in the fund balance and this is what he would expect to be
there on June 30th. The
fund balance is OK at this time. Mr.
Rush said in looking at the Balance Sheet, there is a line item there that is
Fund Balance designated for subsequent years expenditures and it would be
$235,000 but shows $319,000 right now. That
is money that would have been undesignated Fund Balance and the Fund Balance
really would have been $1.6 million but because we used that it is now about $1.3. Mr.
Rush said this is it in a nutshell. It
will be refined in the next couple of weeks.
It is the board’s budget and they are the ones who will be held
accountable to the public. He said
the new pumper ladder fire truck will have to be delayed for at least another
year. He would like to replace it as scheduled but has decided to
delay it another year because it would be difficult to purchase it next year. Mr.
Rush said good news is that all debt service is short term and not further than
2005, except the bonds for beach nourishment.
All debts have been refinanced as approved by the board a few weeks ago.
He said, “We are in great shape.” Mr.
Rush reminded the board that June 11 is Town Hall Day. It is important that they
attend, much more so this year. It
will be a long day because of the board meeting that night but it is really
worth it. CAPITAL
PROJECT BUDGET ORDINANCE - COAST
GUARD ROAD STORM WATER PROJECT Mr.
Rush presented a Capital Project Budget Ordinance for Beach Nourishment –
Eastern Phase. Copy attached to
these Minutes. Commissioner
Farmer made a motion to approve the Capital Project Budget Ordinance for Beach
Nourishment – Eastern Phase, The Capital Project Budget Ordinance Beach
Nourishment Project Monitoring – Eastern & Western Phases and The Capital
Project Budget Ordinance Beach nourishment – Western Phase.
The board voted unanimously, with a vote of 5-0. CAMA GRANT FOR PLANNING The
cost of the plan has not been fully determined yet. Mr. Rush has talked with a planning consultant in Wilmington,
Mr. Bill Farris, who had a lot of involvement in the revised CAMA land use
planning guidelines. He is a very
well respected individual and Mr. Rush thinks he will do a great job.
Mr. Farris has agreed to help the Town prepare the grant application.
The Town’s maximum local match will be approximately $20,000 and could
be spread out over the next two years. Mr.
Rush said he does not have the numbers but it should not be more than $50,000
total and the town’s match should not be more than $20,000 over a two-year
period. PLANNING BOARD
APPOINTMENTS
Some of the Planning Board member’s terms have expired and those have
asked to be reappointed.REVIEW
OF BOGUE INLET / WESTERN NOURISHMENT CONSULTING FIRMS
Mr. Rush suggested the Board rank the 5 proposals received.
This will just give the Board a place to start for interviews. He suggested not discussing them at this time.
Mr. Rush also informed the Board he had contacted the Corps about getting
together the initial scoping meeting on the Bogue Inlet Project and Mickey Sugg
is working on this to be held sometime in May.
He will get all the agencies together and get the process started.
Commissioner Farmer suggested inviting Hammocks Beach, Onslow County and
everybody and getting them involved also. Commissioner
McElraft asked if she “could talk trash”.
She said everyone on her street has complied with their 3-sided racks and
4-sided racks. In reference to the 3-sided racks, after the recycles are
emptied, they (the collection men) are throwing it on the ground.
If someone comes around issuing tickets, that person would get ticketed,
yet it wasn’t their fault because the Waste Industries people did not put it
back in. Mr.
Rush said Waste industries has been talked to about that and he has been assured
they are doing the best they can to get those things back into the racks and the
town is going to monitor that closely. They
are supposed to be putting it back in the rack.
No one will be written a ticket for something Waste Industries has done.
Mr. Rush said he would get with Mr. Keith Stroud again about this issue.
He also said that one of the things they have been doing is laying the
container sideways on the ground. If it is a 30-gallon container, they are
putting it back into the rack upside down. This way they know when they have to
stop. Mr. Rush has seen a lot of
new racks in his neighborhood and it looks like people are making an effort to
comply. Commissioner
Marks related to a resident who has a lot of yard waste down on 10th
street and one of the employees stayed on the phone approximately 20 minutes
trying to explain to that party. She
does not see how administration employees cope with things like this. Mr. Rush said he would put the issue of yard waste on his
list to take a hard look at. He
really does not see why that cannot be done in-house.
Those
submitting proposals were Applied Technology and Management, Coastal Science and
Engineering, Coastal Planning and Engineering, Woods Hole Group and Ecoscience /
Moffat & Nichol. After the
ranking of the firms came from the Board a tally was taken, Coastal Science and
Engineering and Coastal Planning and Engineering were chosen for interviews.
All presented good proposals but it was felt that these two had the best
qualifications. Mayor
Schools said a list questions should be complied to ask at interviews so they
will be asked the same ones. Mr.
Rush suggested providing some time, approximately 45 minutes, for the two firms
to make presentations to the Board and then ask the questions after that.
Commissioner
Farmer said she would like to know if there may be another way to do the project
that would possibly relax the environmental impact but she does not know if
there is. She would also like to talk about the EA versus the EIS.
She indicated that Mr. Rush had said something about the Corps told him
that the town would not necessarily be required to do an EIS mainly because if
we go through the process of an EA, then the agencies are turning around and
saying you need to do a EIS, we have wasted time. There is enough concern about dredging inlets to think we can
get away with an EA is kind of a bluff. Mr.
Rush suggested this be put as a question to each firm about what is involved and
see what they have to say about it. Commissioner
Farmer said her understanding is that the EA sets the stage for the EIS so you
are not duplicating work but it’s the icon that you have when you are getting
all of the comments, which you are duplicating, and we don’t need that. The
interviews will be set up for Monday, April 29, 2002 beginning at 9:00 A.M. There being no more discussion, Commissioner McElraft made a motion to recess this meeting until 9:00 A.M. on Monday, April 29, 2002. The Board voted unanimously with a vote of 5-0. Respectfully submitted, Carolyn K. Custy
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